Survival Food - Freeze Dried & MRE

The Pros and Cons of Civilian and Military MREs

By Timothy Dalton

Meals ready to eat are getting to be a very popular option for people wanting to stock up their emergency disaster kits. And why not? If it is good enough for the U.S. military to feed the soldiers in the field, it should be good enough for civilians as well. However, the problem is that military MREs aren’t available for commercial resale to the public. However, that hasn’t stopped cases of military MREs from appearing for sale online or in army surplus stores. Obviously, if there is a demand for the stuff, people will supply it.

Seeing as how there is a demand for MREs for the general public, manufacturers are also producing a civilian version of these convenient meals. The question is, how do civilian MREs compare with military MREs? The answer is, there is not much of a difference. After all, it’s the same companies who supply the U.S. military with their MREs. They are just expanding their market to civilians.

While military MREs go through more stringent testing with their packaging requirements, you also have to realize that they are made to withstand parachute drops and extreme ranges of temperature. You have to ask yourself, do you really need to drop your food from at an altitude of thousands of feet? Or go through minus temperatures or extreme heat? If the answer is no, then you don’t need military MREs.

You might also be wondering about the caloric differences between the civilian version and the military version. While it is true that military meals average about 1200 calories each, the civilian versions are not far off at 1000 calories. This is for one individual package. If you have one for each of your three meals, you’ll be consuming 3000 calories for the day which is more than enough for even an active male individual.

Civilian MREs are a good choice for the public as there really is no need to go all out with a military version. In fact, when you buy civilian MREs, you will probably be getting a better quality product because you don’t know where the military MRE came from or how it was stored since it wasn’t purchased from a direct source.

Those are the pros and cons for military and civilian MREs. Whichever MRE version you choose, it is always a good idea to keep a case in the house for emergency situations.

Timothy Dalton is a freelance writer who is also an outdoor enthusiast. Visit the following links for military mre meals and civilian mre meals.

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 MRE Meals - Stock Up in Case of Emergency
By Catherine Bormant

If your husband was in the service during the 80s, you might be hard pressed to get him to try MRE meals! The MRE survival food of today is not only designed for emergencies but it tastes good as well! The best solution is to order a variety pack and bring it along as camping food. When your family discovers that freeze dried meals do not mean tasteless, they will wonder if maybe they should listen to Mom more often!

The problem seen some time ago was the ration packs would either not have been completely dried at the manufacture or the package drew in moist air. These problems have been taken care of and you are assured of a quality product with MRE foods today. The meals, ready to eat are sealed and guaranteed fresh with a shelf life of decades.

In light of today’s economy and the uncertainty we all face about the future it is a good idea to be prepared. Stock up on emergency food for your family’s sake and that will be a worry off your mind. I can share with you from personal experience that after a natural disaster, the first step to recovery is safety and the second step is food for survival. When your electricity is out for days, a military MRE with its self-heating pouch saves the day!

Everyone has heard horror stories of eating army rations in days gone by. I believe that is why Tabasco sauce became so popular in drowning the MRE meals! Now days, companies such as MREStar and Ameriqual offer freeze dried food that you would be happy to serve your family in times of emergency. It is also great backpacking food on camping trips when it is not feasible to cook and clean up afterwards.

MRE meals contain hearty entrees such as chicken ala king, spaghetti with meat sauce, and beef stew with rice. There are breakfast MREs and even dessert! The MRE manufacturer, Sopakco, provides fully prepared, nutritious, shelf stable meals that are ready to eat when life is interrupted by an emergency. The military meals are your best defense in survival preparation.

All MRE meals are ready to eat, meet daily nutritional requirements, and have a shelf life of up to four years or longer. Put a disaster plan in action by visiting us at http://www.mremeals.org/ to stock up for emergencies! Our site includes information, features, reviews, and we offer the best deals available on survival food!

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I made this short video comparing freeze dried food and MRE.

Key points are MRE is more expensive but more mobile.

MRE is good for the short term, 2-3 week food reserve, but Mountain House #10 cans which can store up to 25-30 years are cheaper and taste better.

The narrative is that “there are troubles ahead, but ‘just right’ troubles, the kind survivalists have the means to confront … imagined troubles always match the means at hand — or what is for sale to solve the problem.

Richard Mitchell Jr., professor emeritus at Oregon State University and author of “Dancing at Armageddon: Survivalism and Chaos in Modern Times.”

Two people concerned about risks in life and active in preparedness efforts for their families are Bob and Gary.

Bob has created a food storage room. It has racks stocked with canned food, shelves with carefully stored bulk grains, sugar, etc he and his family needs for survival. He has planned and worked this out over a long time and has built up a 6 month supply of food.  He has 30 and 55 gallon drums of water that store enough to supply drinking and hygiene water 6 months as well.  Bob carefully manages his inventory and makes sure the family eats the food regularly so that nothing expires and goes to waste.

Gary, who is also very concerned about preparedness and risks, did some research. Gary thought through what were the best and appropriate choices for his family. Gary decided to buy 6 months worth of freeze dried food which amounted to two pallets he stored in his house. He decided not to buy drums for water but instead purchased and stored five 100 gallon pillow tanks and a 5 gallon collapsible container. Gary also had a water purification filter and a rainwater collector. He had an attachment for downspout collection of water.

A crisis occurred (what kind does not matter if you are prepared for anything) that caused both Bob and Gary to be thankful they had prepared. Bob continued using food from his storage. Gary started to use his food reserve when food supply became intermittent. Both were able to help family, friends, and neighbors who were not prepared at the times when they were in dire need.

Then power from utilities started to become intermittent and fuel was scarce. Bob and Gary both had solar ovens they used to cook and heat small amounts water and store in insulated containers. However Bob and his family were challenged because at night and cloudy days the hot water they stored could not cook the food in their reserve. They began to grow worried. Gary and his family only really needed the hot water to make their freeze dried food hot, a real morale booster.

Due to the stress of shortages, social order was starting to destabilize. As the risk of staying where they were grew higher both Bob and Gary thought about their options. Fortunately both had remote cottages several hours drive away where they had long term relationships with other cottagers that would be a safer place to be.

Unfortunately as is the case in a prolonged crisis, events become unpredictable. One day it became urgent to leave their locations for their cottages immediately. Within an hour the highway would be jammed with drivers in a state of desperation, highly stressed out and emotionally charged.

Bob needed to pack as much food and water in the family van in next 30 minutes. Bob and his wife had packed clothes and essentials for the kids in case they had to leave quickly, so that was in the van in minutes. However Bob’s food reserve of canned food was large, heavy, bulky. Worse water weighs 8.3 lbs per gallon so Bob’s filled 55 gallon drums weighed 458 lbs each. Bob had no idea what to do in this short time. He decided to drain one of his tanks but there was no easy way to do this and avoid electrocution. So he shut the power off and dumped the water out on the floor ruining some grain, after removing enough with a hand pump to tip the tank over. This still took 40 minutes and when he put the empty drum in his van it took up too much room. All he could do was take his 5 gallon collapsible tank and fill it. Meanwhile Bob’s wife was loading cans of food in the in the van but was unable to choose a balance of food they needed. She hurt her back trying to lift bulk bags of wheat and was now writhing in pain. In the end they were only able to get effectively 3 weeks worth of food in the van but drove off because they had no other choice, leaving 4 months worth of food behind. Bob also did have a weeks worth of MRE which hopefully will buy them enough time to figure out how to survive at their cottage.

When Gary realized he only had 30 minutes he knew exactly what he and his family had to do. They had also packed an emergency clothes and supplies bag to leave quickly. Since the boxes of freeze dried food weighed little, with 98% of the water in the food removed, Gary was able to cart out his remaining 5 months supply on a dolly in 15 minutes. There was just enough room in the Van for this much food. More importantly his wife had already brought out an empty 100 gallon pillow tank and put it on the floor of the van (2 seats removed) and filled it. Gary had put the food, solar oven, rain water equipment, empty pillow tanks, and emergency supplies on top of the filled pillow tank and next to it.

25 minutes later Gary and his family were in the Van on the road to their cottage.

Flexibility and mobility are important to preparedness.

The ReadyStore has an online offer to save $100 on new products when you order over $1000 of new products until February 16th, 2009.

Some of the new survival food and products include;

Quad-X-treme Auto Emergency Fuel & Survival Kit

ULTIMATE 3-Month Supply of Freeze Dried Food - #10 CANS

1 Month MRE Supply

3 Month MRE Supply

6 Month MRE Supply

1 Year MRE Supply

MSR Reactor™ Emergency Stove

The 3 month MRE would be a great compliment to a freeze dried food reserve for a family of 3 or 4. Freeze dried food is the best choice for cost and taste.

However MRE has added benefits of

• flameless heater pouches available that, with a little water added, heat the meal in 10 minutes
• No drinking water and nothing else needs to be added to prepare meals
• ideal for trips longer than a few hours becuase they need zero preparation

I started this blog in January this year to write about superior survival food choices like MRE and Freeze Dried Food for disaster preparedness.

I wanted to keep a narrow focus on food storage and water storage only, something I have been able to maintain so far.

Events this year put much more emphasis on survivalist requirements for food storage. I tried to cover the different interests focusing on longer term options as well as short term 72-hour and 2 week preparedness, although it is not always easy.

The first surprise this year was the huge demand spike for survival food when oil shot up to $140 a barrel. Many people who ascribed to ‘peak oil’ theory acted on their concern and by early May there was resulting shortages of freeze dried food and lead times of 6 - 8 weeks or more till July. By August supply and lead time was back to normal as demand for survival food dropped with the price of oil.

Next up was the economic meltdown that started in September. Demand has gone up as a result but not as severe as during the May oil panic buying, and so there has been no shortages or long lead times of freeze dried food but a steady high volume since October.

I sincerely hope that 2009 brings some economic stability. I also hope that many keep buying long storing (25 years) freeze dried food in 2009 so that as many as possible are prepared if events take a turn for the worse and not wait till the last minute.

Freeze dried food and MRE became in very short supply quickly when a relatively small number of people took action and bought because of peak oil concerns last May. It is obvious it will then be impossible to get survival food once any more acute economic issues arise in the future.

There is a story on the US Army news site telling how Iron Chef Roberto Donna took 2 MREs and turned them into “five-star, restaurant-quality dishes”.

While at first this sounds too good to be true, it turns out that it is. They were allowed to use 5 ingredients and unlimited spices and herbs.

Once you read the story it is clear that the dream of just spicing up or adding some simple ingredient to enhance your MRE flavor is just a dream.

There is not much practical ideas you could use for survival food unless you give up the convenience and ready to eat benefits plus storing a whole lot more of other foods.

If they could have limited themselves to one or two ingredients requiring little preparation it would have been more useful. However basically they are really preparing a new dish with some MRE thrown in for the exercise.

Iron Chef gets creative with MREs

I found this great food storage calculator at;

LDS Food Storage Calculator

As I mentioned previously LDS has alot of knowledge on preparedness and many survival food stores main customers are members of LDS who are looking for a year supply of food.

Fortunately the calculator allows you to input decimals for number of people. If you want to know how much for for one person for 3 months, just enter 0.25 into the number of people box and select calculate.

Now as readers of my blog know that for disaster preparedness for most of us, freeze dried food is the better choice.

Most people do not have the time or inclination to start storing staples listed on the site and spending 4-5 hours a day cooking with them regularly while you use up and replenish your storage. Eating one year old food all the time does not appeal to me nor is it necessary. However some may have a lifestyle that supports using stored staples and that is great for them.

Some however may not be able to afford the amount of freeze dried food and MRE they desire to be prepared. There is also some value in diversifying your food storage. So you may want to consider some stored staples that you can reasonable consume and replenish without it going bad and throwing it out.

So the LDS food calculator is a good tool for your calculations. Please note however that you should be accustomed to the food diet that the staples will provide as many survival experts agree a significant change in diet can cause severe health problems under stress in a disaster or desperate time.

I did a calculation on one year for a family of 4 with children over 7 years. The results were ;

Total Grains     1200 lbs

Total Fats            52 lbs

Total Legumes    240 lbs

Total Sugars       240 lbs

Total Dairy         300 lbs

As you can see foods with the water in them are quite heavy. With freeze dried food 98% of the water is removed and can either be stored separately or gathered from rainwater over a year, there is much more flexibility and portability options. The calculation on the website indicated only 56 gallons which way off, you will need a ton of water to prepare and cook these food staples.

Freeze dried food as a survival food is a better choice for most.

Here is a great comment on being prepared from Tricia. We all learn from experience, and those who have experienced the worst are wisely the best prepared. Thanks for sharing, Tricia.

Hi, my husband and I have been building up a supply of food for about 8 years. After Hurricane Ivan hit and left us with nothing we had to start over. Red Cross didn’t get to us for over a week, when the military came in they passed out mre’s and water. We ate the mre’s and going on the second week I was having trouble getting them down. I found it very hard to continue eating them. When we finally found a home (8 mths later) we had been lucky enough to have a whole lot of space (we had to start over). We purchased freezed dried #10 canned ( Honeyville) of veggies (onion, carrot, celery, peas, corn, potato flakes) fruit (strawberries, apples, peaches, raspberries, blue berries, bananas), eggs (egg whites, egg yolks, whole egg). I filled the pantry with alot of things like Olives, large can chicken, tuna, #10 canned tomatoes, chili, all kinds of canned fruit, baked beans, our thing was we need enough for family, our animals and neighbors. We buy rice in 50lb bags and we vacuum seal gallon size amounts along with oxygen removers (this is very important), we do this for noodles, sugar, flour, grits, dry milk, etc… Next is the beans, every kind, beans go along way we put them in a quart size zippie bag and again we vacuum seal with oxygen removers. We stocked up on everything we use from bathroom supplies, toliet paper, toothbrushes, soap, shampoo, etc… to cases of canned bread (special order) & cases of canned butter (special order) I think you get the point. We vacuum seal everything but the cans. I have everything we need to enjoy our meals. I bought Bulk Foods (sams club & other stores that sell the #10 cans). We have the convenience of not needing to go shopping for 7-10 years. Since we lost everything we started over with furniture, we did not buy any end tables, etc.. instead we bought those nice big blue buckets with lids. I have stacked (2 high) 8 full containers behind my sofa (the fit was perfect just under the full length of the sofa) my husband cut a pcs of plywood to fit the top next I put a nice cover (sheet) over it and put some nick nacks on top so you don’t even know its there, did the same thing with the love seat and my end tables are containers. When our pantry was loaded and my laundry room cabinets where full I had to put the food some place. I also use a dehydrator for jerky and fruit (short term). For the question about how would we move this if we had to move no problem, because of Hurricane Ivan we had to purchase an RV (30′) it would be easy to move these items into the RV. Anything major hits us either by Mother nature or by Man we have our list, Animal & Things (every day items), Medication, Cleaning Supplies, Emerg 1st Aid, Emerg 1st Aid for snake bites, bathroom items, Lots of Bleach, Food, Water Purifiers (2), Rechargeable Batteries, Extra Gas, Elec & Duct Tape, Flash Lights & Lanterns, Propane, Propane Heater, RV and/or Tent & Supplies, Tools, Solar Panel, Camouflage Clothes & Nets, Generator, Oil/Gas, Candles, Matches, Batteries AA, AAA, D’s, C’s,
Extra Water Filters for Purifier, Entertainment (brd games, dice, cards etc…), Protection (ect….). We do expect the worse to happen and I have an evacuation plan list that we sent out to our close friends and family that is more detailed (a place to meet up, road maps that are marked and several ways to get where we need to go. Some people may think this is really bad but thats okay because there are a whole lot of people like us doing the same thing (food for thought).